{"id":5991,"date":"2024-06-19T21:23:33","date_gmt":"2024-06-19T19:23:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/?p=5991"},"modified":"2024-06-19T21:24:30","modified_gmt":"2024-06-19T19:24:30","slug":"xxl-avant-conversion-complete","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/?p=5991","title":{"rendered":"XXL Avant conversion &#8221;complete&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>So, after having made the physical conversion with the mounting plate all that was left was the electrical..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5992\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_210603672.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>To fit the ASI BAC-series of controllers the hall sensors and thermistor needs a 6-pin molex plug. Those are super hard to come by. Sure, I could buy a complete adapter from the US, but that&#8217;d take far too long.. So I 3d-printed a molex plug, the crimp connectors I already had.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5997\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240613_212344386-1.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>A resin printed plug with TPU seals will have to do. It&#8217;s pretty sealed and I could fill it with hot glue if needed later. Here I made a mistake though. I used the schematics for the BAC855 controller to deduce the pin numbers for the different hall sensors, and I got it wrong..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6002\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240615_175020600-2.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I opted to mount the controller under the seat instead of in the motor well. There it&#8217;ll be a bit more protected and it makes for a cleaner installation.. there is however far to much wire in the engine bay..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After having connected everything and made a new battery tray to fit an extra battery pack, the motor didn&#8217;t run. I loaded the correct settings file and modified it to fit the Avant, but the motor just jerked and sounded real bad and the controller had warnings about the hall sensors.. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One reason I wanted to run the XXL motor with hall sensors was to be able to use the &#8221;Speed&#8221; setting on the control algorithm. This would let me choose the RPM and the controller would adjust the current to stay at that RPM no matter the load. However, what I didn&#8217;t know..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"877\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489-877x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6007\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489-877x1024.jpg 877w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489-257x300.jpg 257w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489-768x897.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_2489.jpg 1179w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 877px) 100vw, 877px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>SO &#8211; while having problems with the hall sensors causing the controller not to be able to sense the speed it was running I set speed mode without setting the switching frequency and the bluetooth connection I&#8217;m using to configure the controller simply crapped out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I couldn&#8217;t connect to the controller, and the controller wouldn&#8217;t run. \ud83d\ude00 *yey*<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To solve this I had to remove the controller to get it into my office to connect it physically using RS232 to my computer. From there I could, with a lot of help from &#8221;Mr High Voltage&#8221; from the High Voltage discord, restore the Switching frequency, the control mode and the bluetooth baud setting. Having measured the hall sensors I figured I had just switched two cables, an easy mistake to make especially when all the other motors I have have custom wire looms that I&#8217;ve made myself:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6008\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_161614812-3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>After a bit of rejoicing at the revelation that I hadn&#8217;t bricked the controller I put everything back on the Avant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6009\" style=\"width:626px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_20240619_201039997-3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I shortened a few cables and tidied the wiring up as much as I could. Fixed a small leak on the hydraulics, made a washer to fit the belt wheel on the motor as it sat too low and touched the bottom plate of the machine and then the motor just spun like a kitten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It feels like this motor is a much better fit for the avant. Even with the smaller belt wheel I get more RPM so the machine moves faster. It&#8217;s got a cooling fan so it can hopefully stay cool and with room for an extra battery pack I&#8217;ll be able to remove the snow from the driveway with volts to spare. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The only thing I&#8217;ve got left to do now is replacing a few joint shafts to get it a little less sloppy, and then the FUN project will start. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>TBC<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, after having made the physical conversion with the mounting plate all that was left was the electrical.. To fit the ASI BAC-series of controllers the hall sensors and thermistor needs a 6-pin molex plug. Those are super hard to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/?p=5991\">Forts\u00e4tt l\u00e4sa <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[91],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5991"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5991"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5991\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6011,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5991\/revisions\/6011"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5991"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5991"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.runstenracing.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5991"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}